There are already many threads discussing this

OP, cat,

Have you skilled into the RR and have tried it yourself?
If you have, have you tried it with your assorted suits?
If so,
what you have posted is your results and conclusions of?
or,
are just fed up being chewed up by it, like everyone was
by the AR two months ago?

The RR is FOTM at this time.
That is fact.
Just about every Logi is sporting a RR.

Yes, I speced into it, I needed to know what I am getting hit with
in my tinfoil scout suit, to understand its pluses and minuses
so I can deal with it accordingly.

I do like the RR, it is almost the marksman rifle, between a sniper and AR.
But if mercs use it for not it's intended role,
(imagine that in Dust, who would ever do such a thing, never...)
you would see less of it used.

It is nature to exploit anything in this game to its advantage and fullest potential.
A prime example of exploit is the Logi suit (now that is being fixed in 1.8)

Skill into it, try it, exploit it, then report back with your opinionated analysis of.

If optimal was "win mode" Shotguns and SMG's would win 100% of the CQC engagements. As Is, player skill plays a larger role in outcomes of combats. Spray and preying with your AR 'in it's optimal' does not entitle you to winning all your gunfights.

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To clarify, I have Prof 5 in AR's and Prof 4 in RR's. I still use my AR, and I can wreck RR users as I can play to my weapons strength and their weaknesses.

True, but he rr is the "racial equivalent" of the breach ar from pre 1.7. So logically, it should be high damage (as most breach weapons are) and slower ROF with a better hip spread (as most breach weapons are)....

Please don't take away my crutch?

It's good and a fine weapon, as a non-rail rifle user i think the range should be cut off a bit maybe 15% and thats it, the recoil stops it being king and separates it from the AR wich has less recoil.

Another RR QQ thread from Cat Merc LOL

Cat, you're a bad player so just shut up.

And do you see anyone using a breach? The breach AR is in a pitiful state because of CCP's horrible track record of nerfing weapons. If I was king of the universe, I'd buff the breach's DPS while nerfing its range (the range being worse than regular AR, but better than an SMG).



The hip-fire for the TactAR is as bad as any weapon in CoD, making it virtually unusable. It's a damn slot machine.



That sort of irrelevant to be honest. Most people who play shooters are terrible which balances out in itself. The King of CQC may love the gun, but Average Joe may hate it the same situation. Don't get me wrong, I do understand that most of the arguments here are "it's too good at CQC!" but your argument displays the very problem: it varies from person to person.
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I mentioned before with KAGE that I don't think any weapon in the game should be useless in CQC besides the sniper rifle.

I gave the imaginary CQC situation of two people of a random skill level, one with a RR and the other with an AR. In my perfect view of the game, the guy with the AR wins 3/5 times. That's balanced to me. What so many people seem to want to happen to an apparently OP weapon is the extreme of 0-1/10.

If people really think the weapon is OP then why not bring down the weapon damage by 5 in each tier?

Also entertained the idea in my head of reducing the recoil thereby reducing headshots. After all, more recoil often equals more headshots. That's what happened to me in MAG and BF3. Just an idea.

Awwww poor kitty is my crutch better than your crutch? You want my crutch nerfed so your crutch can be better again? Yes? that's your bad player mentality right there.

Yep if he's loaded with armor. Try to beat caldari or shield minmatar without flux.
You can change hipfire I don't care of it.

Most people who complain here are armor fit users, slow and low shield.
I'm playing as an amarr logi, when I was fully armor I was easy target for RR.
I've changed fit, put more shield on it and now RR isn't so good against me.

Also:
IF U are:
*AR user,
*CR user,
*HMG user,
*Shotgun user,
...and U complain that somebody killed you in CQC from RR than like somebody smart said here before:

"You are doing something wrong"

The gallente at is better when fired in bursts, like an actual assault rifle, you cannot cry for a Nerf to a weapon because people want to pray and spray. That said the RR does have disadvantages, the charge time, slow rate of fire, and magazine size. I do see where you are coming from, especially since you are gallente. This weapon was designed to kill armor tanks, much like the scrambler is designed to kill my shield tanked caldari suit. You know what I do when I see a good scrambler rifle user? I run, because I am out matched, as I cannot fight that awesome alpha of a gun designed to kill me.

I don't see the range as an issue, it has the same optimal as the scrambler rife, 78m it's effective is a bit longer, I believe 102m. At about 150m I'm doing about 20% damage, I won't be able to break shields at that damage before I burn through my whole clip. The assault rail is meant for medium to short range, its a variant, but a good gal at user will still beat me cqc.

I don't care if you Nerf the RR, I don't use it because its op, I use it because its caldari.
I would like to know how you intend to reduce the dps tho, as I would preferably like to keep it useful.
Personally I think all assault rifles should loose 10% damage to encourage specialty weapons.

And thus the cycle continues...shame, really.

really not, you play with a gallente with dmg mod live with it, now you have a counter stop whinning you appear to never played an MMO